{"id":342,"date":"2010-03-03T23:48:06","date_gmt":"2010-03-04T04:48:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blog\/?p=342"},"modified":"2010-03-03T23:48:06","modified_gmt":"2010-03-04T04:48:06","slug":"gaming-clubs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blogs\/tjkopena\/2010\/03\/gaming-clubs\/","title":{"rendered":"Gaming Clubs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blogs\/tjkopena\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/page-top-logo.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-343\" title=\"page-top-logo\" src=\"http:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blogs\/tjkopena\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/page-top-logo-300x135.png\" alt=\"page-top-logo\" width=\"300\" height=\"135\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blogs\/tjkopena\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/page-top-logo-300x135.png 300w, https:\/\/rocketshipgames.com\/blogs\/tjkopena\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/page-top-logo.png 459w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>This is a re-post of a long note on a DakkaDakka <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dakkadakka.com\/dakkaforum\/posts\/list\/279959.page\">thread<\/a> about gaming stores that spawned some discussion about gaming clubs. It talks about some things I&#8217;ve been meaning to write about regarding <a href=\"http:\/\/pagegaming.com\/\">PAGE<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Chiming in on the clubs sub-thread: I help run a club (<a href=\"http:\/\/pagegaming.com\/\">PAGE <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(19);\">CC<\/span><\/a>) in Philadelphia (east coast US). For those sort of clued in about the area but not quite, it&#8217;s about 40 minutes from Mikhaila&#8217;s store. Just close enough that a couple guys go there from time to time, but probably just far enough to be slightly different &#8220;markets,&#8221; particularly when you figure many in our club are true downtowners who rely on public transit, walking, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The club meets once a week (Sunday evenings) in a building downtown owned by a long standing philosophy\/activism organization (Philadelphia Ethical Society). The traditional club focus is on boardgaming, but miniatures and particularly <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> are a large and increasing aspect, and definitely currently the most energized.<\/p>\n<p>Although small by many standards, I think the club&#8217;s actually fairly successful. The big thing is that almost everyone can find people to game with. On any given week, you will find a variety of boardgames to hop into. On the monthly <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> convergence, you&#8217;ll find a bunch of different armies and a good number of players (generally 12&#8211;17 players), and the club members work together to provide and transport terrain and so on, which many people don&#8217;t have or can&#8217;t get there.<\/p>\n<p>In many ways it fills many of the roles of a good gaming store, which I see as including at least:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Providing space to play. I think most people will happily play games with a larger set of people than those they would like to have traipsing all over their house. On top of that, public space can often run a lot more games. Especially in a dense urban area like ours, space at home to run more than a table or two is rare, let alone space to run the 12 or so we routinely run at the club (e.g., our recent pattern of 7&#8211;8 <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span>, 1 or 2 Warmachine, and 2&#8211;4 boardgames). Having that kind of space to all get together is great because it helps you meet new people, catch up with guys you may not be playing on a given night, suck in new players (&#8220;Wow, what are you guys playing?!?!&#8221;), and build an event atmosphere.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Expose people to new games, systems, armies. Despite loving and following the fluff, I might never have gotten into actually playing <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> if I hadn&#8217;t kept seeing a couple guys playing it at the club. Having a large pool of people bringing in games, armies, etc., really increases your level of exposure to the hobby, letting you find that next great thing you really love.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Teaching and recruiting new players. A lot of our guys are happy to lend out armies for people to try playing, and a lot are super supportive of new players. Part of the reason I started playing <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> a lot is basically a couple of the guys gave me a lot of their unused models once they saw the gleam in my eye&#8230; Having that large group also keeps new perspectives coming in, so people learn a lot more about rules and tactics then they would playing the same couple people all the time. Ditto on painting and modeling skills and ideas.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Providing terrain and other support. Myself and a couple other guys love building terrain, have space to store it, and can transport it to the meetings. Other people don&#8217;t. Playing at the club provides a lot of our guys much better options in this regard then they would have on their own.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Giving a community in which to geek out.  Even though the club only meets once a week and <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> basically once a month plus the odd game here and there, there&#8217;s a lot of chatter about games and specifically <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> on our listserve. A lot of people get that from great forums like Dakka as well, but it&#8217;s cool to then actually see those people and get in a game with those people.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Run special events.  Especially for <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span>, we have a pretty reasonable stream of stuff going on, whether it&#8217;s the club outing to &#8216;Ard Boyz or other external tournaments, our own relaxed tournaments, themed narrative nights, Apocalypse games, or whatever, people really get into that and having the club provides a larger pool of players and, critically, potential organizers.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, such clubs definitely exist in America and I think have an important position in the gaming community.<\/p>\n<p>Another point is that people are totally willing to pay for all of those features I list above (we basically charge $4\/night to cover rent), so it makes no sense for anyone to argue that people playing at a store shouldn&#8217;t be supporting that store in some way. Whether it&#8217;s memberships to use store features or buying merchandise, I think that&#8217;s a completely reasonable expectation. Even within our club, which runs a pretty decent periodic bulk discount purchase, all of the core <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> guys definitely put out and evangelize the perspective that if you&#8217;re playing in a store, you should buy something. I admit that I hesitate to buy big stuff at full price, but myself and a bunch of the guys are all too happy to buy codexes, small boxes like Command Squads, etc., at local stores.<\/p>\n<p>On that note, I think clubs and stores can definitely exist together. We&#8217;ve been unfortunate that there haven&#8217;t been gaming stores right in downtown Philly in a while, but recently we&#8217;ve been slowly building up a relationship with a new store on the western edge of Center City (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.redcapscorner.com\/\">Redcap&#8217;s<\/a>). For an example of how they complement each other, one thing I think we&#8217;re finding is that it&#8217;s obviously easier for them to host small groups at weird times. They&#8217;re a store, they&#8217;re open basically all the time, and they have pretty good gaming space. You can reliably count on popping in with a friend to play a match and finding a table. Our kind of gaming would have to get a whole lot more popular for the club to justify paying that kind of rent (it&#8217;s worth noting though that Philadelphia and most cities have many bridge, poker, and other full time gaming clubs). On the other hand, in some ways it&#8217;s easier for the club to host less regular big events. We don&#8217;t have to worry about things like crowding out all the cash-money Magic players with a large crowd of comparatively space-required-per-$$$ inefficient <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> players.  So, I&#8217;m hoping we can work together with symbiotic events and efforts to continue growing <span class=\"glossaryitem\" onmouseover=\"gp(3);\">40k<\/span> in Center City.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a re-post of a long note on a DakkaDakka thread about gaming stores that spawned some discussion about gaming clubs. It talks about some things I&#8217;ve been meaning to write about regarding PAGE: Chiming in on the clubs sub-thread: I help run a club (PAGE CC) in Philadelphia (east coast US). 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